That sucks, it always hurts being the victim even if you don't get hurt on the outside. My condolences, I hope they get him.
Simply more evidence that Western civilization -- increasingly an oxymoron -- is crumbling.
This process has been unfolding for a long time. Liberals believe that criminals aren't really evil, they're just miscreants who need a good talking-to. Herewith a poem from James Thurber (of Walter Mitty fame), written nearly a century ago:
If a fellow killed his sister
When dear old Dad was young
A jury of his equals
Had him sent out and hung.
But the use of such rough tactics
Is abolished in the land
And we let 'em go if they can show
A low pineal gland.
-- Tell Me Not (1925)
This trend can be seen in stark relief in the FBI's failure to share vital information with the Boston Police Department about the jihadis who just killed and maimed people in Boston. And the fact that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was quickly Mirandized and allowed to plead out to beat the death penalty underscores the West's flaccid response to crime. Essentially, criminals know that crime doesn't necessarily equal punishment -- and behave accordingly.
Dark days indeed. And worse to come.
At some point, it will be more cost effective for Starbucks to post armed guards than to lose all the business due to the "Apple Pickings".
Are armed guards even allowed in California anymore?
Would anyone like to argue that if the perpetrators here had a reasonable expectation that one or more patrons in the coffee shop was carrying a concealed weapon, they would't be "pickin" there? Remove all question of armed resistance and the bad guys flourish.
You can thank the federal courts for setting all those thugs free...
Ben -- "I was the victim of a crime. Can't help that. I blame the guys who did it. Not sure who else to blame. But, yes, I'm irritated that the authorities aren't inclined to do a great deal about what happened to me and a bunch of other people. Their hands are tied by policymakers."
Also Ben: "The San Bernardino County D.A. decided to charge the one juvenile in the case. He is supposed to serve 18 months in a locked facility, where he will presumably earn a GED and somehow learn a trade."
Those statements conflict. Serving 18 months for stealing a computer incarcerates this juvenile for a longer stretch than all but a couple dozen of the crooks who perpetrated the 2003-2007 mortgage scams. Only two of the big crooks, there, did time.
With young property offenders, mostly, the problem is getting them employable and then waiting out the early 20s. They start out like Louis Zamperini and end up like Louis Zamperini, minus his success as a track star and catching a nasty war.
With youth unemployment running 25% and more, whatcha expect? And would you be any different if you had come from their environment? Truthfully....
The crime problem is a problem of family - when the Democrats induced depedence in an entire group of people they destroyed the family - the problems all flow from this.
I've told the story many times - in the early 90's I represented juveniles in Essex County (Newark), NJ and got a first hand look at just how terriby these people had been misused - all one heard in court was "where's the grandmother" over and over again. When you have an entire community filled with children brought up by single mothers, or grandmothers, aunts or no one - then, as sure as two plus two equals four you can get outsided amounts of crime, drug abuse, no will to be educated and all the rest. And this situation was predicted in two studies authored by no less than Daniel Patrick Moynihan, among others. The result was no surprise to anyone.
You want to get a good education in how these problems start - spend some time in a big city juvenile court. In Essex County ca. 1992 it was something out of Dickens, an elderly judge sitting in an dusty ancient court room - and this in a place under Democratic control for..forever. These children, whose care is typically by one woman - or worse - the state - have results that are precisely what one would expect.
But don't look to the Democratic media to address this problem or even admit it exists - these are the same people who even as I was in the old Essex County court house watching child after child get "processed" through the system were putting on morality plays celebrating single motherhood - through "Murphy Brown." And you won't find the leadership of the commmunity talking about it either since for them it is Democratic Party uber alles. Anything that could solve the problem is not on the agenda - after all if the problem is solved there would be no reason for continued injections of money purportedly to solve the problems but in reality to enrich those in the business of poverty. The fact that a half a century later none of it has worked means nothing - the claim is always because there is not enough money, or racism or anything else but what could really make conditions better.
One has to be cynical when the answer to resolution of these issues is so simple but no one addresses or talks about it. I'll bet that every person who was part of the group that was involved in these thefts grew up in a fatherless home. But, admitting that would be contrary to policies Democrats hold dear - the independence of women, the unimportance of family, the power of government to solve everything. But, most of all the money spigot would be turned off if the problem is solved. And reducing crime, having children be educated, and all the rest is not in the interest of those who make their living off the misery of others.
After all, with a father in the home these children could grow up and vote for...Republicans.
"You appear to attract a group of victims, like yourself, looking for someone to blame."
Well, isn't this a fine how-do-you-do! Let me lay this one out again more simply. I was the victim of a crime. Can't help that. I blame the guys who did it. Not sure who else to blame. But, yes, I'm irritated that the authorities aren't inclined to do a great deal about what happened to me and a bunch of other people. Their hands are tied by policymakers. (Remember: This is a journal about public policy.) Legislators changed the law, which has had consequences beyond just an uptick in property crimes. We have this fellow, Abel Maldonado, starting a campaign for governor based entirely on repealing the Realignment Act that I describe in the piece.
What is with the manichaeism? So, on the air quality regs, yeah, those are fine things. What isn't so fine is when regulators continue to write rules that regulate smaller and smaller problems. These are not all-or-nothing propositions. You can have clean air rules that don't drive companies out of the state. But that isn't the choice California's statesmen have made.
"Ben, do you enjoy the helplessness your ilk have brought to society? Liberals, specifically media types have allowed these animals to roam free."
My ilk? Uh oh...
"you do not mention if these criminals were, black, white or Hispanic. Why?"
It's in the second paragraph. Sir, you might want to try and read the piece again, slowly this time. Many thanks.
I shudder to write this, as this will place me in the group I so want to stay out of, but I do read your writing.
You appear to attract a group of victims, like yourself, looking for someone to blame. You do admittedly live in San Berdoo, and so by placing yourself in the belly of the beast, you have placed yourself in harm's way.
Do give credit tho to those same "liberal" politicians that have cut, through regulation, the copious amount of air pollution that the lovely Inland Empire once enjoyed.
I also recall having seen this same boo-hoo story in another publication.
Lastly, your other loyal reader, lessthantolerant, is lessthansmart, as you do point out the race of the miscreant that made off with your laptop. He, as a skilled reader, missed that fact and sought to point that out to all of us.
@ Lake Worth ("if I may be allowed to state an opinion?"): you're certainly allowed to, but I'll bet there are many who wish you would refrain from doing so.
So called `Justice` is much the same in the UK. The words `punishment` and `deterrence` no longer figure in the vocabulary of our judiciary.
well, CA leads America, over the cliff
in one sense, the 'system' works, these thrives were scooped up shortly thereafter, because crime and criminals live in a finite universe, so street justice, justifiable homicide for theft, need not be implemented
in another, the narrative is then early release increases crime, and that the purpose of prison is not crime reduction by rehabilitation but crime reduction by incarceration also called incapacitation
in still another reality, the purpose of punishment ie incarceration, in not specific deterrence, locking perps up, but generalized deterrence, what do we have to do to THIS perp to keep others from committing this crime, thus the measure of proper punishment is a sociological criminological measure, taken from data a year later, and subjectively until then
youthful offender status as a 'pass' on punishment once more focuses on the perp and not the vic, and is a social decision, that the vic can absorb the hit more than the perp, i winder why one laptop, stolen by a 19yo is more worthy of societal protection than another stolen by a 16yo
perp-centric sentencing, i realize, -- the kids will be ruined by alt treatment, oh dear, too bad for the vic
and of course we have he usual, since there are bigger crimes 'there' - this guy's laptop is unimportant here, to him
good to know
as some aside, under Reagan, many S&L guys went to jail, hundreds ofd prosectuion
'under the o-team mr holder says too biog too fail (Bush) ==>> too big to jail (O)
I actually heard NY District Attorney Cy Vance say the same thnig at a local meeting open to the public, too big to prosecute and shut down too much collateral damage, no question of banker mens rea (evil intention)
what ever happened to 'broken windows' policing
meanwhile NYC has low gun crimes /c stop and frisk, the very police procedure that actually works, well if it the persons of color in the poor nabes who suffer
along with starbuckian laptoppers
i expectr that our perpsa fit a predictable profile, nut just age and gender and color but behaviors of scanning and cruising in packs and body language, we know it when we see it, takes a sharper eye though, have to stare and process and be accused of 'eyeballing me'
so, play defense, lock up your computer and enable crime by letting it learn to unlock locked computers
Ben, do you enjoy the helplessness your ilk have brought to society? Liberals, specifically media types have allowed these animals to roam free.
you do not mention if these criminals were, black, white or Hispanic. Why?
"The San Bernardino County D.A. decided to charge the one juvenile in the case. He is supposed to serve 18 months in a locked facility, where he will presumably earn a GED and somehow learn a trade. I haven't been able to confirm what happened in L.A. County, although I heard there may still be charges in Riverside."
"Maybe one time there will be an illegal concealed carry person...."
"Well, if enough us have concealed carry permits and we actually carry even a small weapon and enough of the Apple Pickers get shot...."
"Another argument perhaps for carrying a derringer on the ankle, wot?"
"Faced with a stark racist reality of tacit approval of the copious city employees of color to their felonious cousins, I felt it useless to call to report a hooded black scoping out my neighborhood late last night, instead depending upon my licensed .45 and .357 in defense of my property...."
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Who's worse? The Apple-pickers or the gunners? Hoping to be able to shoot somebody, whatever the circumstance, seems on a different level from jacking a computer. There's enough blood-gargling psychopathy available on the hate-radio shows, if I may be allowed to state an opinion?
What happened to the guys who stole $2.1-trillion with the Big Boom mortgage scams? The big pension frauds.
Ah, Gary M., my Stalinist downstairs neighbor (unrepentant, 70 years old) told me the other day that "All property is theft!"
He has a good processor in his head, but a big GIGO problem.
And he didn't get the logical absurdity of crying "Theft!" in a propertyless world.
Well, Mr. Brennan, I'm happy to provide an update, as I am keenly interested in the case: The San Bernardino County D.A. decided to charge the one juvenile in the case. He is supposed to serve 18 months in a locked facility, where he will presumably earn a GED and somehow learn a trade. I haven't been able to confirm what happened in L.A. County, although I heard there may still be charges in Riverside. The generalizations are not grand -- if you happen to live in California, the effects of realignment will be an issue in next year's election. Whether it will be a large or small issue, obviously, remains to be seen.
So is this column just one of those grand generalizations, or did the criminal in this case get convicted and serve time, or get released? I bet the write doesn't know, but is just blowing smoke.
I would read that JoJelly was referring to earlier concealed carry permit authors, not you, sir.
However, several years back I made the tactical error of alerting my local authorities of a black male hiding under a bush in the neighborhood and requested police investigation. The black 911 operator replied, "There's no law against that." and concluded the conversation.
Faced with a stark racist reality of tacit approval of the copious city employees of color to their felonious cousins, I felt it useless to call to report a hooded black scoping out my neighborhood late last night, instead depending upon my licensed .45 and .357 in defense of my property in the event of his tragically focusing on me. The economy is spawning passionate boldness in the uneducable masses.
Mr Boychuk, it appears that "JoJelly" was just replying to "Jascha", and not to anything you wrote.
I don't think I ever suggested shooting anyone in the back.
Shoot a thief in the back as he's running out the door with your computer? I don't think anyone here can afford the jail time, attorney fees, and civil lawsuit. Plus if he's black and you're not, well, just kiss your ass goodbye.
Another argument perhaps for carrying a derringer on the ankle, wot?
The theft was wasted on you because you're not a liberal. Since the gang's MO included Starbucks, I can only hope that the rest of their targets were Subaru-driving Democrats who support "alternatives to incarceration".
For agwisreal and anyone else interested in the "tech solutions" side of this story, I wrote a very different piece about the incident for Macworld. (There is, in fact, a "Lojack for Laptops." It isn't the same.) http://www.macworld.com/article/2028403/dont-get-apple-picked-how-to-protect-your-mac-from-theft-in-public-places.html
LoJack came up with a technical solution of sorts to auto theft. Might there not be some sort of technical fix to the problem of laptop theft? Perhaps laptops can be built with a critical component, without which the machine will not work, that cannot be replicated because some of its workings are encrypted, and that physically fails if the wrong password is entered some extravagant number of times such as 100.
Until then, the machine just doesn't work...except for trying to email or otherwise alert the authorities. After that, it's broken until it gets that part, with the right encryption, from the original vendor. Who will not deliver the part unless the original purchaser shows up in person, with authentic photo ID, to request it.
The State, clearly, cannot be troubled to address the problem of mere "grand theft".
Well, if enough us have concealed carry permits and we actually carry even a small weapon and enough of the Apple Pickers get shot, I believe the evidence is clear that the robberies will slow down, significantly. Now, would you, could you smile back at him when you pull the trigger? The issue is simple. Some years or centuries ago, we formed a government to protect our property and we developed laws which were to be enforced so that we didn't have to have on going fights for our property rights. But, now, in California and many other places, the government cannot or will not protect our property. If they cannot protect our property, there isn't a reason for them to exist.
Maybe one time there will be an illegal concealed carry person..
Wake up America.. California usually leads in societal change, coming next to you !
But don't worry. You will never face an armed criminal because you can't carry concealed.
Criminality like this, in the "liberal bastions" of CA, know that 99.9% of the time, they can accost someone on the street and they will be unarmed. It makes criminality much safer. All the citizen can do is call 911, if they are able, and wait.