My name is Eben Gossage. If you once knew me, please e-mail me. My address is firstname.lastname@example.org and phone number is (415) 922-6640.
Eight trillion is $80,000 per taxpaying family.
The former "Comrade Sandalio" of the one-person leftist sect 'Fomento Obrero Revolucionario in the U.S.' offered as a commentator on Occupy Oakland -- yow!
A closer look at the track record of neo-conservative screedmeister Steve Schwartz can be seen here. Bon appetite -- if it doesn't make you sick:
Signed, Kevin Keating, Occupy Oakland partisan.
Great! thanks for the share!
Oh. And there were 35,000 to 50,000 people there. Not 7,000. Look at the aerial footage on YouTube.
This article is full of it. The ILWU Local 10 (Longshoremen) was HELPING with the strike. The rank and file didn't come to work. The quote from Richard Mead, who is at Occupy Oakland all the time, was from the NEXT DAY- not the general strike- with a small group of rogue protesters that Occupy Oakland chided for being there. They were stopping up an intersection, stopping non-union truck drivers from going in. The rank-and-file of ILWU was at all the rallies. 7 whole high schools walked out. City workers went on strike. This article is very dishonest. Unions will be marching with Occupy oakland again, this Saturday.
"Unlike the original Trotskyist movement of the 1930s—which nurtured eventual neoconservatives, such as Irving Kristol—the latter-day remnant are sycophants of the Soviet-style dictatorships in Castro’s Cuba and Hugo Chávez’s Venezuela. Trotsky, whatever his faults, at least had the virtue of fighting Stalin—whom he compared to such small-time tyrants as Porfirio Díaz in Mexico."
Interesting to read a defense of Trotskyism in City Journal -- but then again, what else can we expect from an author who used to call himself "Comrade Sandalio"? One has to laugh at Schwartz/Sandalio's attempt to defend the "real" Trotskyism from the "revisionists" and "nihilists."
Stephen Schwartz is a Federal agent and liar unlimited. He wrote tendentious, factually untrue stories about Bosnia in the 90s and was fired from the SF Chronicle. He's a former Trotsky and Maoist Communist and now a psychotic David Horowitz neocon. Ignore him entirely.
Oh, I don't know, but it seems to me that Mayor Quan is doing an outstanding job in turning Oakland into a "Detroit by the Bay"
Anyone keeping count of the number of business's shut down or planning to leave town? I'd invest in Home Depot or Lowe's in the short term as they may well do a booming business in plywood to seal up all those doorways and windows at vacant stores.
I grew up in Oakland, and got out. I don't think you need to know why. It's a town full of losers. They get what they deserve.
Ron, that's awfully witty. Snark at the right by left wingers is always entertaining. You've certainly entertained with your remark, even though snark appears to be all you've got.
Analyses of the left by right wingers is always amusing. Mr Schwartz doesn't fail to entertain, even if he completely misunderstands what he's writing about
There will always be people that try to deny the right of American Citizens to have their say, and to demand change. This does not alter the basic facts: America USED to work. The people had work. The system worked. Hey, EVEN the Congress used to work (sometimes). God knows, it was far, far, far from perfect -but at least we all had some share in the struggles AND the rewards. But somewhere along the way, we lost our way. Because now we have an economy and a political system that seems to work only for the rich. What they call "trickle down economics"....leaves most of us out in the cold cold rain. We need to get back to what America was, and what it should be, and what it can be. Occupy Wall Street is no longer just a place called Zuccotti Park - Zuccotti Park is everywhere. You can beat us and arrest us and tear-gas us, you can try to "permit" us to death....but you can't kill an idea. You can't keep down a people’s hopes and dreams for a better life.....a life with dignity and freedom....for us, and for our kids. More power to Occupy Wall Street, as it spreads to every town and city - because OWS is us, and for us, and by us. It comes up from the grassroots, and it lifts us up in turn. With OWS America has found it’s voice, and that voice demands fairness and justice -for ALL. This land IS our land! AND WE WANT IT BACK! We want our LIVES back! We want our FUTURE back! But it’s more than just words.... it’s more than just politics.... it’s your LIFE, and how you want to live it. So why not take some time, find a quiet place somewhere, and consider this: Each of us has only one brief life....one chance....one roll of the dice....and many choices. It’s time to choose....to risk...and to act. If not now...then when? If not you, then....who? You DO have the power my friend....and the choice is yours. Don’t let your dreams die.
Stephen obviously was not there. I was. There were about 10 members of the vandalize everything wing of the anarchists during the march itself that spray painted the Whole Food outlet and broke windows during a 3pm march prior to the march to the pier. It did not happen during the port action itself. It was also opposed *be everyone* on that march one "anarchist" tackled to make him stop.
No one claims outside a small grouping for vandalize everything crowd that this was 'revolutionary', that's in Stephen Schwartz own projected straw man to tear down. It was an outburst, indeed, at the inequities of capitalism and rich's theft of money we worked to accumulate. A few points to clarify Stephen's homogenization of that day:
There were far more than "7,000" as over 15,000 left the plaza at the 4pm embarkation point. I got up a post and litteraly counted in blocks of 20 the crowd. It took foreever.
The 4pm march was tailed by the 5pm crowd of 5 to 7000 people. Most of us believe it was 20,000 total. Could be more or slightly less.
There was overwhelming support by the rank and file of Local 10 AND the truckers who are kept from organizing by draconian interpretation of the Sherman Anti-Trust act...they live on their $20,000 a year jobs if they are lucky to even make that much. Both classes of workers demonstrated a tremendous amount of support to the those filling up the port that day. We were all grateful *for their support*.
Then Stephens' "neo-Trotskyist" baiting is totally without substamtiation as he appears clueless who the players are both in Local 10 specifically and the ILWU on the coast. While I do in fact appreciate that he did not sink so low as to name 'names' there is a zero "organized" effort by any left group or even milieu inside the ILWU to take "it over." Local 10 is a very democratic local and the rank-and-file do what they want, when they want to do it. They are not manipulated or forced to do anything against their will. Just ask them if you don't believe me. In fact, about half the Local's members never even showed up at the hiring hall that day or went home after rank and file appeals were made for solidarity. Per contract and the law, Local 10 leadership did not push for this to happen. It just did. Stephens' writings on this is more conspiracy mongering than real journalism. What is Stephen trying to say???
Lastly, no, it was not a true general strike, but 10s of thousands of people did not show up for work that day. This was more akin, in fact, to the 2006 May Day immigrant workers general strike which in fact did shutdown whole industries, including the Port of LA and every 3 star hotel in San Francisco. IT was of course much smaller. Perhaps the next effort will be bigger. We can only *hope* so.
This article points to "business as usual" thinking by Lefties who like to see themselves as "getting it" while watching things unfold through news outlets. At least GO TO AN OCCUPY ZONE before fulminating about what this all means and referencing The Old Guard. Read Matt Tabbi who gets it: How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love OWS: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/11/11-7
Great report by Stephen Schwartz. Having once been involved in Oakland politics, I remember Dan Siegel from his days as president of the student body at UC Berkeley, and who helped ignite the People's Park riot. Quan is an accidental mayor, having been elected by Oakland's quirky choice system, and De La Fuente is a radical union activist and organizer. All are emblematic of Bay Area radical activist style politics
Hey Stan, got an Evinrude for all that trolling your doing.
OWS is NOT everywhere, only in delusional minds like yours
Stan - Your sentiments are confused - America, my America is working their frigging butts off. My daughter is of this current generation and she works. She does what she has to do and making it. Not the work she imagined or hoped for but she's young. The 'immigrants' come here to work. And find work they do that the 'occupy crowd' wouldn't consider doing. Each generation of my family has started their adult life with a blessing and a kick out the door (some of us actually tried to get out early). No one started with a dime and yet we found how to make it happen. There's a different American dream portrayed by the left which is I dream of someone 'giving me something'. The government owes me, the banks owe - the people that shop at Whole Foods owe me. This is a hard time but its a time people find out what they're made of.
While I spend little or no time on the MSM, I did read a piece in the San Jose Mercury-News Thursday. It led with the the attempts at reconcilliation by Mayor Quan but buried in the back pages was the real news.
Some members of the Oakland city council and the business community had a separate meeting to protest the protests but they in turn were broken up by the Occupy people. Microphones were grabbed and speakers were shouted down. The rabble won that one.
Significant was this news about violence was mentioned only in the LAST paragraphs.
That certainly justifies my decision years ago to cancel the Mercury-News.
America used to work. The people had work. The system worked. Hey, EVEN the Congress used to work...(sometimes). God knows, it was far, far, far from perfect - but at least we all had some share in the struggles AND the rewards. But somewhere along the way, we lost our way. And now we seem to have an economy and a political system that works only for the rich. What they call "trickle down economics"... just leaves most of us out in the cold cold rain. We need to get back to what America was, and what it should be, and what it can be. Occupy Wall Street is no longer just a place called Zuccotti Park - Zuccotti Park is everywhere. You can try to pen us in, you can beat us and arrest us, you can mace and tear-gas us , and you can try to "permit" us to death....but you can't kill an idea. You can't keep down a people’s hopes and dreams for a better life.....a life with dignity and freedom....for us... for our kids. More power to Occupy Wall Street, as it spreads to every town and city - because OWS is us, and for us, and by us. It comes up from the grassroots, and it lifts us up in turn. With OWS America has found it’s voice, and that voice demands fairness and justice. This land IS our land! AND WE WANT IT BACK! ...We want our lives back!... We want our future back! ....So why not take some time, find a quiet place somewhere, and consider this: Each of us has only one brief life...one chance...and many choices. It’s time to choose...and to act. If not now...then when? If not you, then... who? You DO have the power my friend....and the choice is yours.
For Immediate Release
November 10, 2011
New data shows Oakland Residents fear the impact of Occupy Oakland on business and agree overnight camping should end
Oakland Residents favor jobs and local businesses over encampment
Oakland, CA - Today, the Oakland Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce released new polling from EMC Research. The results draw a clear distinction in attitudes among Oakland voters.
Oakland voters are generally in support of the principles of the Occupy Wall Street movement. However, they recognize the huge impact that the on-going encampment has had on local business and jobs and want it to end.
"It has become clear that Oakland residents want jobs, not tents," said Joseph Haraburda, President of the Oakland Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce. "Oaklanders know that the encampment is damaging our city's reputation as a place to locate and grow small business and cutting off vital customers from businesses who need them now more than ever."
Surveys were conducted among 1,100 Oakland voters/residents on November 8 and 9. Key findings include:
• Almost two-thirds (63%) say that the impact of occupy Oakland on local businesses and workers has been harmful
• More than one third (37%) of all voters say they are less likely to go to downtown Oakland because of occupy Oakland
• Only one-third say overnight camping should be allowed on Frank Ogawa Plaza
• Of those expressing an opinion about the encampment nearly 60% say the encampment should end.
Voters were also asked their opinion of Mayor Jean Quan's handling of Occupy Oakland. The findings include:
• Nearly three-quarters (73%) of voters disapprove of the way, Mayor Jean Quan is handling Occupy Oakland, only about one in ten (11%) approved of her handling of the occupation.
"These results confirm what we've been hearing from business owners, Oakland homeowners, residents, and even the police union - we need the Mayor to lead us to a successful and peaceful resolution," added Haraburda. "Our economy depends on it," he added.
A press conference to discuss the poll results will be held at the Oakland Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce, 475 14th Street at 2pm today.
For more information contact Paul Junge (510) 874 - 4817 with the Chamber or Ruth Bernstein of EMC Research at (510) 550 - 8922. # # #
God. Crypto-fascist Steve Schwartz is still around. I thought you had passed. Too bad. The Manhattan Institute's loss is our gain.
B Samual Davis
With a name like yours you must be one of the 1%. Good luck to you. You are going to need all the luck you can draw to you.
You missed the point of the OWS movement. Like all movements, conservative, Tea Party, liberal, they all have their nuts. They try to take advantage of the moment, and so their actions are not lasting, but the rest of OWS will last because the bottom line problems that they are facing are thrown in their faces every single day by corporations, banks and Republican intransigence.
Thank you for reporting and explaining to these people whomever they are, that what they are doing is counter-productive and will lead to a greater disservice to those who need the benefit of the group think more than ever before. It's too bad that the so called "reporting media" hasn't the foggiest
notion of what true honest reporting is and as long as they hang onto every word of some politician they never will.
I only hope that some of the youth of this country received enough education to figure out what they need to do, is to learn what the candidates for office represent and stand for, and then make a choice as to what they want for a government. Do they want the promising non-producing politician, regardless of party, who is lining his/her own pockets and those of the PACs and Unions or a government that is truly OF, BY and FOR The People of these United Stats of America. A government interested in putting the United States back in first place in the World, and not as the World's Policeman, but as a leader, showing the rest of the World how it can and should be done. Like the greatest generation, the one that built roads, power plants, the best automobiles, for the least price, grew the most food and could feed the world, the list of accomplishments goes on and on, too bad no one learns about them and no one is interested in writing abut them, until it is too late.
More foolishness from Democratic sponsored organizations. The entire OWS "movement" was planned, initiated and put into execution by elements of the Democratic Party with White House support, especially from Biden, whose speech preceding the "demonstrations" was the announcement of the "event."
However, well prior to that the owner of Zucotti Park was paid off with a huge "wind farm" grant (continuing the corrupt Democratic tradition of using public funds - witness Bill Clinton's payoff of NOW with $500K hush money for an anti-smoking campaign during the Lewinsky scandal - for purely personal political purposes), the successor to ACORN paid the homeless to be part of the whole thing, and, most important, the media played its part, both by supporting the events as some kind of grass roots movement, and avoiding any investigation of how these events were organized. The student stooges as well as the usual suspects and profession parasites who live off events like this also played their parts.
How can this movement be taken seriously in view of how it started? For Democrats, OWS has been hugely successful in its intended mission of taking the spotlight off of Obama's utter incompetence in handling every issue that has come before him - and for Obama the less publicity the better, since to know him is to understand just how bad he is. That OWS has led to inclusion on the national agenda of the so called wealth gap is the icing on the cake.
But, for those who don't appreciate being manipulated, OWS is disturbing indeed. We will unfortunately have to wait until after the election to hear the full story, since most of the media studiously avoids looking too deeply into what's going on and how it started.
As for Oakland, the media will continue to play its part, highlight what the Democrats want, and play down anything that would make the Democrats look bad. And, at this point, anything that takes attention away from the dismal state of the economy and Obama's utter failure in any leadership role is welcome news to Democrats.
Now that the Democrats have been able to come up with yet another formula for manipulating the national agenda through phony front movements and other similar tactics, we can look forward to more of the same.
Anything rather than the news being about Obama - after all, unlike most Presidents, who grow to fit the job, Obama is the first President in history to actually shrink in office.