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Cris-foreign nationals have no rights except the right to be deported. If a person enters the US illegally or under false pretenses then they should be put on a plane back to their home country. No hearing is required and the fare and expenses bourne by them. If the US believes that some people may immigrate to the US then there should be certain financial requirements such as having at least $500k in assets and proof of insurance in their home country to reimburse any medicals costs here; at least a Uni degree;and from a Caucasian country.
The US is not a charity and should look out for its interests first.We don't need any more hotel cleaning/prostitute females or Aztec lawn boys. Those jobs can be done by the US underclass.
*should have
James-94% of rape accusations are false and when you add to that the fact that there are no cases reported of a Caucasian man raping a Negro female then those hotshot profilers at the police dept. shouldn't have figured out that this case is probably bogus and proceeded with caution.
"If coming from an abysmal culture justified fraudulent entry into the U.S., we should junk our legislated immigration regime and declare the borders open to all. Until we do, to “understand the circumstances in which such deception could occur,” as McGovern urges us to do, doesn’t justify breaking the law and lying on an asylum application."

I wonder if you would have advocated for the prosecution of the fugitive slave laws in the antebellum North until that day when they might be overturned. After all, understanding the circumstances of slavery might not justify breaking the law that said an escaped slave was still a criminal in a "free" state.

The government routinely and illegitimately violates the God-given rights of foreign individuals to enter into employment contracts with hoteliers and other employers. This actually does justify lying, if indeed the woman did lie. If I were Mr. French guy, I would consider my lawyers remiss if they did not do everything in their effort to tarnish the image of this woman.
One curious thing which the Duke rape case taught us, if we were listening, is that of the 30,000 or so reported rapes of black women annually in the US, none are by white rapist upon black women. Red Flag #1.

Maybe Strauss-Kahn is just very special. We often hear that he is.
I was delighted on Thursday, 30 June, when the news broke that the woman who had cried, Rape! (and cost Dominique Strauss-Kahn his career, just at its peak) was suddenly found not credible. Now the Journal reviews the affair editorially (2 July). One might have hoped that media editors had ever read Evelyn Waugh’s 1938 novel, SCOOP, a terrific satire of sensational journalism, featuring Lord Copper’s sheet, the DAILY BEAST. They might have paused before piling on in a wild scrimmage the day DSK was seized at Kennedy airport. Everything about the “case” against him smelled like rotting fish. Today it has exploded in the office of New York’s prosecutors. Faugh! Two questions were from the very first plain as sunlight here in Los Angeles at high noon.
A poll suggesting 57 per cent of French thought Strauss-Kahn had been set up, possibly by US officials. Missing was comment concerning the French-owned deluxe Sofitel and its French-speaking maid from Guinea. A widow of 32? Asylum-seeker? How come? What for? Coincidence — or concatenation? Lies, in short.

Never mind the accuser’s telephone call to an Arizona drug dealer, or whatever back story will be offered or subtext concerning huge cash deposits to her account. Ponder instead these lines from Joseph Conrad’s famous 1899 novella, HEART OF DARKNESS. Headed for the Congo’s estuary, his ship greets a French vessel standing off an unnamed country, which might have been Guinea: Once, I remember, we came upon a man-of-war anchored off the coast. There wasn't even a shed there, and she was shelling the bush. It appears the French had one of their wars going on thereabouts. Her ensign dropped limp like a rag; the muzzles of the long six-inch guns stuck out all over the low hull; the greasy, slimy swell swung her up lazily and let her down, swaying her thin masts. In the empty immensity of earth, sky, and water, there she was, incomprehensible, firing into a continent. Pop, would go one of the six-inch guns; a small flame would dart and vanish, a little white smoke would disappear, a tiny projectile would give a feeble screech — and nothing happened. Nothing could happen. There was a touch of insanity in the proceeding, a sense of lugubrious drollery in the sight; and it was not dissipated by somebody on board assuring me earnestly there was a camp of natives — he called them enemies!— hidden out of sight somewhere.

Even after 120 and more years, who knows but that there may be scores yet to be settled in those recently-independent French colonies? What better target than a swinger like DSK. the chief of a great bank world bank like the IMF and favored candidate for French president...?

Set up? Graham Greene couldnt have done it better. Furthermore, Waugh’s SCOOP ought to be required reading in every “school” of journalism today.

Sincerely,
Professor of English & Modern Literature, UCLA
Santa Monica, CA 310.393.7968
www.jfkessler.com
If as has been suggested she was indeed plying the worlds oldest profession perhaps the dispute needs to be worked out in small claims court
You cannot have an intelligent discussion or debate or sharing of ideas with the Left. They are on a totally different wavelength, they appear to speak the same language but words have a completely different meaning for them.
If you disagree with them or with any of their policies, you are a fascist or a racist, probably both. I had a discussion a couple of weeks ago over coffee with a couple of faculty members (Economics dept) at Rutgers University whom I know thru our common membership in a local temple. We got to discussing the voting blocs that have arisen in the Supreme Court. One of the tenured faculty members stated that Justice Clarence Thomas is a closet racist who hates his own people. The proof - he is married to a white woman. My response was then Barack Obama Sr. must have been a racist, because he was also married to a white woman. The good professor's response was, "well that was different". How different, I asked. The tenured professor, who enjoys a six-figure salary and a lifetime job courtesy of the New Jersey taxpayers, responded that "Obama Sr. was a good and decent man, that was the difference". And how is Clarence Thomas not a good and decent man, I asked. The response was, "well he married a white woman to show his disdain for black women". This is not even circular reasoning, this is circular stupidity. From a PhD in Economics yet(Columbia, surprise, surprise!).
You cannot debate or discuss reason with these people. These people would have you shot in a New York minute if they ever took power. In the interest of preserving Democracy, to be sure.












Ms. MacDonald, might have asked, “Does a sexual encounter between an old man and a beautiful young woman, not in itself suggest a gross abuse of power?” Feminists never consider that beauty, youth and sexuality will trump age, power and wealth, almost every time, beyond the Old Testament.

Perhaps Ms. MacDonald might cite these evaded names:
Crystal Gail Magnum and Nafissatou Diallo, beginning with,

“Accuser in Duke lacrosse scandal indicted in boyfriend's murder”
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/04/accuser-in-duke-lacrosse-scandal-indicted-for-boyfriends-murder/1

Jeffrey Asher
judy brown lawson July 08, 2011 at 3:41 PM
Oh please, give it up.

DSK follows the well travelled path of powerful men who "use" un-powerful women (or boys) to relieve themselves of stress, ennui, or just because they can.

This is news?
This never happened before?
Who never knew about this?
And, the joker question:
How many of you out there either
1) did it or
2) got it done to you?

Hmmmmm?
If coming from an abysmal culture is a dq for citizenship, I am going to have to turn in my passport. You see, I grew up in Detroit in the 1970's. I am telling you, it was an ugly culture.... I know, I was there!
Ivy League silliness and bigotry...any act is fine in the right context.

So it was that the context of Nazi Germany required putting certain people onto trains for the camping trip of a lifetime.

What does McGovern say about that?
When I read this I can't help thinking about another instance of a gross abuse of power - that of President Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. I don't recall the New York Times publishing editorials defending Lewinsky and excoriating Clinton - in fact, I recall the reverse, not just at the Times but throughout the vast "mainstream" media.
another superb piece by Macdonald. the fixation with 'context' has largely destroyed the rule of law in the us. Mcgovern's 'analysis' demonstrates conclusively the endemic intellectual corruption of the universities.
The white IMF chief must be a total idiot to have even consensual sex with a black lady in those circumstances,as if he was starved of sex.He deserves a severe jail term on this count alone for letting down the entire world as the head of an important global organization.
Alena Hromadkova, Prague July 08, 2011 at 2:58 AM
Dear Heather Mac Donald,
thanks for the well written argument. People who spent the best years of their life under communist rule can detect the seductive flavour of marxist dialectical materialism in Mr McGovern's approach...
I feel strongly determined to go on praying for America.
Alena Hromadkova, Prague July 08, 2011 at 2:56 AM
Dear Heather Mac Donald,
thanks for the well written argument. People who spent the best years of their life under communist rule can detect the seductive flavour of marxist dialectical materialism in Mr McGovern's approach...
I feel strongly determined to go on praying for America.
Professor McGovern's message is more confused than H.MacD lets on. First, DSK is a socialist, a belief system that has no overlap with free trade. Second, the IMF has a checkered record in its support of freedom of commerce. Third, if Guinea were to practice free trade, its social/economic conditions would be considerably less miserable than they now are. Finally, if Guinea has an export industry in bauxite, the country as a whole is (albeit, inequitably) profiting. Guinea is, indeed, a very poor country rule by kleptocrats, but in support of H.MacD's thesis, the world contains probably billions of poor people who never commit a crime.
I say, let's wait for the inevitable Dianne Sawyer or Barbara Walters interview, then deport her! Too bad Oprah's "retired," otherwise she'd be on it in a second....
"McGovern’s op-ed is a classic example of portraying individuals only as the helpless pawns of larger social forces—a sure recipe for dissolving the rule of law."

Well said, and how appropriate that the op-ed appeared in the New York Times, a paper that has been trying to subvert and defeat the rule of law on immigration for about forever.

This case is particularly traumatic for our ruling PC Pod people because the maid happens to belong to at least three different protected pet demographic groups that multiculturalists are perpetually trying to [insert violins] uplift.
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Border Enforcement + Immigration Moratorium = Job, Crime and Eco Sanity.
It is a pity so much damage was done to Strass-Kahn's reputation before the investigations into the accuser began.
In terms of pure strength, could a 62 year old white collar worker subdue a 32 year old woman who does physical work for a living?
I'm sort of confused: if an African person suffers abuse in his/her native homeland due to tribal affiliations, why do the many do-good organisations not place him or her in a neighbouring country free of discrimination from the person's tribal affiliations?

Surely moving these persons to America may or may not represent the optimal solution.
Thanks for this article. An interesting counterpoint to the NY Times piece. I do feel that it is difficult to write about the DSK matter generally, because so much about the accuser is speculation. I'll look forward to reading more as facts replace speculation. One thing I do wish to point out, however, is that Straus-Kahn, broke his marriage vows, consensual or not, with this encounter. Thus, Strauss-Kahn is a liar as well. So we have a case of one or possibly two liars brought together in this strange mess. Who's to say why Strauss-Kahn's wife is so devoted. These are private mysteries.
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As to the substance of the article, it strikes me that if working girls ply their trade from the halls of the Sofitel, that undercuts the wages that honest maids can command. So there is an abuse of power, if you trace the consequences.