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I can see banning FRIED potatoes, but they can just as easily be oven baked. Full of potassium, vitamin c and fiber. what do they plan to substitute for them? What happened, the potato lobby didn't pay enough tribute? http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6300 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6300 Wed, 18 May 2011 13:04:52 EDT Lots of controversy that I see regarding statin drugs and cholesterol levels. After I finish my current Crestor 20 mg bottle I would like to get a blood test and go back to 10mg if my levels are ok. Mark Green http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6298 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6298 Wed, 18 May 2011 12:28:04 EDT My top weight was 196. I'm 6' tall, 60yrs old. When I moved to the Sierra Foothills from the SF Bay Area and started building decks and such my weight dropped to 160 and I never changed my diet with the exception of drinking a lot more water. My basic diet was always meat, potatoes, veggies and fruit. My VA doctor asked me if I was dieting because for a while my weight dropped to 147, then back to 160. Sometimes I read all day sometimes I cut the field grass, sometimes I cut firewood, and sometimes I work in my garden. My food intake philosophy was for the most part 'moderation'. I never saw the need to eat more than satisfied my hunger. However my wife who is more sedentary has to watch her diet and eats no beef, or pork. Her diet is mostly Fruit, veggies,rice,chicken and fish, with some cookies and such. Point being we're all different and a bit of common sense should direct us in what we eat. We don't need the governments interference. However when we are paying for a persons food, health, home etc. I think it can be that the government tell the fat person to go on a diet and do some exercise, get a job if well enough and stop watching TV all day long. My thought. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6296 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6296 Wed, 18 May 2011 12:17:12 EDT A good article, but the statement "The idea of a sugary drink becoming fat is absurd", is absurd. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6266 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6266 Tue, 17 May 2011 16:37:50 EDT “The idea of a sugary drink becoming fat is absurd.” It's a well-known fact that excess blood sugar gets converted to fat and stored away. In fact, this is where most of our excess body fat comes from. Soda is one of the major culprits in this. The campaign, while naive in some of its parts, is not scientifically inaccurate. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6262 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6262 Tue, 17 May 2011 00:53:56 EDT Choose your dates: The obesity epidemic is not the past; the obesity epidemic is still going on. And fat consumption and all calories consumption has gone up. Meat consumption per capita went from 144 lbs in 1950, 161 in 1960, 189 in 1970, 190 in 1980, 193 in 1990, 211 in 2000, 219 in 2005, 222 in 2007. Yes, beef consumption declined from a peak in 1975 from 85 to 66 in 2007--while chicken went from 39 in 1975 to 87 in 2007. There were also increases of 8 lb per capita in pork from 1975 to 2007 and 10 lb per capita in turkey consumption from 1975 to 2007. And yes, those numbers all increased between 1970 and 2000, and 1980 and 2000, also. Not only beef, but chicken has become leaner over the years. Consumption of added dietary fats (oils and shortenings) increased about 25 percent from 1970 to 1997. Refined grain consumption also increased, but from a record low after declining (while meat consumption increased) over the century. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6261 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6261 Tue, 17 May 2011 00:38:39 EDT http://newsatjama.jama.com/2011/05/03/author-insights-questioning-the-benefits-of-salt-restriction/ Why did the CSPI push for the use of trans fats over saturated fats to begin with? http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6259 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6259 Tue, 17 May 2011 00:16:27 EDT We're fat because we no longer eat the diet that the human body evolved on- meat, fruits, vegetables, nuts, berries, eggs- and instead we eat a diet that is high in sugar and flour and grain. Grain fattens cows and pigs for slaughter. Why are we surprised it does the same for people? http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6257 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6257 Mon, 16 May 2011 23:11:38 EDT This column ignores a ton of evidence implicating dietary fat, especially saturated fat, as a causal factor in cardiovascular disease. I'll just mention a couple of studies. There's one where researchers used a saturated fat and dietary cholesterol index. They determined the amount of saturated fat and dietary cholesterol consumed in 40 nations. They then determined the ischemic heart attack death rate. The correlation between the CSI (cholesterol and saturated fat index) very closely explained the ischemic heart attack death rate. Two countries, however, were outliers. Finland and France. Finland had a higher death rate than could be expected from the CSI and France had a lower death rate than could be expected from he CSI. But butter fat and milk product consumption explained the death rate very well. There's another one where researchers tracked the eating habits of men in Baltimore Maryland, paying special attention to their consumption of fruits and vegetables (FV) on the one hand and their consumption of saturated fat (SF) on the other. The research showed that FV was protective against early death while SF increased the early death rate. These two variables, FV an SF, acted independentaly to affect the death rate. The bottom line is that this column gives the reader the misleading impresssion that we are all clueless about the relationship between diet and disease. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6256 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6256 Mon, 16 May 2011 19:52:24 EDT My underweight mother in law has high blood pressure and she keeps ending up in the hospital with low sodium. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6255 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6255 Mon, 16 May 2011 19:09:06 EDT I've wondered for a long time if there was a connection between dietary guidelines and obesity. I remember being taught at grade school during the 1970's, "4-4-3-2; that's the formula for me and you." - yet people were skinnier back then. (If you were taught it too, you'll know what I'm referring to.) Obviously, the article is not conclusive, but it should (but won't) give pause to those who think they have everything figured out and are ready to apply their solution to everyone. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6254 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6254 Mon, 16 May 2011 17:28:12 EDT Some relevant facts. According to the CDC, during the obesity epidemic 1. It is not just percentages: for men the absolute amount of fat went down. The absolute amount of saturated fat went down 14 %. For women it went up only slightly. 2. Almost all of the increase in calories was due to increase in carbohydrate. 3. Almost all foods increased in consumption including fruits and vegetables. The only things that went down were red meat and eggs. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6253 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6253 Mon, 16 May 2011 16:41:17 EDT Exellent article...hope Mrs. Obama reads it. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6248 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6248 Mon, 16 May 2011 13:48:22 EDT Dr. Robert Lustig, M.D. UC San Francisco Google him, and watch his youtube sensation from 2009. "Only" 1.2 MILLION views. Those who don't believe eating HFCS, high fructose corn syrup, leads to obesity, resemble defenders of smoking, who claimed sucking in tobacco smoke didn't tend to lead to cancer. When will conventional wisdom take into account Dr. Lustig, who should win a Pulitzer? The prediction I read was that by 2020 over TWO THIRDS of Americans will be overweight or obese! http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6247 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6247 Mon, 16 May 2011 13:07:15 EDT Malanga has written an ill-informed article, yes, part of his continuing series of articles to justify his own diet of fat crap. The AMA diet, which he sites as low-fat, is anything but. It is 30 to 35 percent of calories from fat. He cites the percentage balance of calories shifting a few points lower in fat and a few points higher in carbohydrates, but he ignores the 800-lb ape in the data--that this did NOT represent a reduction in fat consumption, as total calories rose substantially and fat consumption rose as carbohydrate consumption rose. And carbohydrate consumption rose in the form of simple carbohydrates. And no, it wasn't "potatoes"; it was sugars in soda and virtually every processed food. And while potato consumption rose, it was french-fried potatoes and potato chips that increased massively, which--Malanga may be shocked to hear this--have the majority of their calories not in carbohydrate but in fat. Americans are more obese than ever, and it's not because they're eating baked potatoes with a little salt on them. It's because they're eating more foods high in fat and refined sugars, highly processed foods, and meat (which is, of course, always high in fat, even when it's called "lean"), which has become a religion with the help of diet charlatans like Taubes (Malanga's chosen expert). http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6246 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6246 Mon, 16 May 2011 12:45:01 EDT I am grateful to Steven Malanga for bringing to the public our critique of the DGAC. The publishers have kindly made the article available without subscription at the journal Nutrition webset. The problem is lack of openness -- an unwillingness of experts to confront their critics and an unwillingness of granting agencies to fund studies by people who hold to a minority opinion. Do Nestle and Woolf really believe that the scientific evidence showing the dangers of tobacco are in any way comparable to the risks from any of the food changes they recommend? Of course not, but they don't have to face their critics who would provide data. If they did so they would not be able to keep saying the same old thing, (or maybe they would) but at some point, with appropriate light on the situation we would ask why we keep funding them and not people with real scientific ideas. They would not be invited to every panel. They would not be flown to Washington to tell us all what to eat. What are those factors compared to the scientific truth? The problem is real and immediate: it affects what is in your kid's lunchroom. The experts have to be made responsible -- there has to be really open hearings. We have to fund real tests of carbohydrate restriction. Citizens can write to their elected officials and contact me or Lauri Cagnassola or Pete Farnham at the Nutrition & Metabolism Society. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6245 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6245 Mon, 16 May 2011 11:45:28 EDT This article has the ring of truth. I hope it gets read by many, many people! http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6244 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6244 Mon, 16 May 2011 10:57:12 EDT Part of a disturbing tactic by many groups, usually those favored by the left, including environmental groups, to ignore truth and accuracy if it supports the goals of the group. These groups count on the traditional media, which is sympathetic to their views, not to question the scientific accuracy of the claims, and to use it as part of an overall effort to keep the populace engaged with the media - "stay tuned for further updates." Global warming is a good example - even as the science withers away, groups with a vested interest in keeping the issue alive (and the money for the groups goals coming in) ignore evidence to the contrary, and count on the traditional media not to look too deeply into the science. I recall reading a series of quotes from those involved in the controversy to the effect that even if the science was bad the issue was useful for other reasons. On a more basic level, these people have a deep contempt for the masses, and have no fear when it comes to telling people what to do.This view is typically, and paradoxically, combined with the the view that they are open minded and tolerant, when in fact, the reverse is true. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6242 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6242 Mon, 16 May 2011 10:28:42 EDT What is new in our diet (as a species)? Meat? Fat? Fruit & Veggies? Clearly not. To these, it seems reasonable to assume, we are adjusted. What then? Obviosly the culprit is carbohydrates in refined form - sugars and starches. And this is Taube's hypothesis. Louis M> http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6241 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6241 Mon, 16 May 2011 09:15:02 EDT My general impression is that the position taken by the author is very similar to that taken by those he castigates - that is, driven primarily by ideology, and ignoring evidence from successful projects such as the Karelia Project in Finland. Specifically, I would simply note that his statement that "America’s obesity rate was far lower .. before government became widely involved in the diet-advice business" may well be true, but the conjunction of two unrelated facts, with the implication of dependency, is an old rhetorical device ... http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6234 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6234 Mon, 16 May 2011 05:03:02 EDT "First do no harm." Physicians and Politicians could do a world of good, if they would do only that. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6227 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6227 Sun, 15 May 2011 23:30:28 EDT Common-sense continues the struggle! http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6226 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6226 Sun, 15 May 2011 22:28:10 EDT Um, actually, soda *does* contribute to obesity. Researchers are finding that sugar, and fructose in particular, is a huge contributor to non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, which seems to cascade into insulin resistance (and, later, diabetes), which is a major cause of obesity in many people. Researchers are *also* finding that sugar leads to those problems in people who are choline-deficient. Two of the major sources of choline in the human diet are liver and eggs, both of which have fallen out of favor among Americans in particular and which are also advised against by the health experts. I won't go so far to say that someone who eats liver and eggs several times a week will be able to drink all the soda they want and not get fat; there are other reasons to not ingest that much sugar besides worrying about your weight. And there are other reasons to not want to get fatty liver disease, like not wanting to be a liver transplant candidate in 20 years. But let's not pretend that ingesting that much sugar has no health consequences at all--and let's PLEASE stop pretending that the only health concern we ought to have is how much we weigh. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6225 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6225 Sun, 15 May 2011 21:46:35 EDT I'm not sure what to make of this article. It seems to want to make a point. But it's so unbalanced and poorly informed I don't even know where to begin dissecting the guiding logic of keeping government out of decisions about diet and health. All government decisions are not bad. All government decisions are not good. Therefore some are good and some are bad. And I guess Malanga's entitled to his opinion - but that's pretty much all I got from this windy piece. I would suggest reading a few books by Nestle, Pollan and T. Colin Campbell. I really like a book by the guy who wrote Lady Sings the Blues - William Dufty with the fitting title Sugar Blues. It's funny to read this type of uninformed gobbledygook because it's well written technically but has no meat! It seems to be all bombastic puffery. Unfortunately I do not yet have insight into this writers motives. I don't see how it can help anyone improve their approach to thinking about healthful eating. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6224 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6224 Sun, 15 May 2011 21:29:13 EDT Thanks for this. The 'goal posts have been moved' on this stuff so many times it's not funny. What's so dangerous, as is noted several times here, are the unintended and unanticipated collateral effects of a particular target du jour. Also, I'm convinced that the final word is not out on the long term effects of their hideous concoctions they seem to want everyone on. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6223 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6223 Sun, 15 May 2011 20:59:40 EDT Excellent summary regarding current findings on diet, carb's, saturated fat, cholesterol from diet, healthy cholesterol levels, etc. Ross http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6222 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6222 Sun, 15 May 2011 19:48:08 EDT Malanga writes another ideological driven, anti-govenment diatibe, regardless of the benefits of curbing the marketing of poor nutritional products. Bob Gardin Cleveland, Ohio http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6221 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=7019#6221 Sun, 15 May 2011 19:27:02 EDT