From the print and online editions of the nation's premier urban-policy magazine http://www.city-journal.org/cj-comments.xml?story=6797 Manhattan Institute Trilling had the moral defect of his generation and of his heroes: he did not understand the necessity of religion. Read some Cardinal Newman, and the point is clear. GPS vehicle tracking http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#6801 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#6801 Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:08:55 EDT I¡¯m delighted that I've observed this weblog. Lastly something not a junk, which we go through extremely frequently. The website is lovingly serviced and saved up to date. So it need to be, thank you for sharing this with us. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#6780 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#6780 Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:23:26 EDT Being a world war II baby I was startled to learn of the new (two or three years ago) sexual behavior on campus: the hook up. No romance, no mystery, no longing just sex among friends or casual acquaintances. I was reminded of this behavior reading this article. Could the hook up be just an outer boundary of the phenomenon of individual behavior guided not by the individuals morality but by the morality of the social imagination? Who needs love when getting off is just a hook up away? http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5701 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5701 Sat, 16 Apr 2011 20:18:59 EDT I think the treatement of Trilling's treatment of the fictional journey in some novels from naif to urban(e) participant and of the connections between Trilling's treatment of that journey to it in his own life is well presented. I think too the presentation of Trilling's treatment of the "social imagination" as an aspect of that journey in contrast with the artistic imagination is good too. The intellectual weakness of that opposition is the fault of weaknesses in Trilling's own overarching thinking, his personal politics aside. Related to that inadequacy the essayist is good to take down the inadequacy of Trilling's idea of art/the novel as the saving repository of our moral betterment and to take down Trilling's inflated claims for art generally. But the essayist goes too far in ultimately politicizing his analysis and finally breaks down completely in trying to sweep Trilling into his own conservative ideological net. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5682 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5682 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:48:06 EDT A good essay. Trilling's remark about making our fellow men objects of interest, then of pity, and finally of coercion is in a file I keep of great quotations. Most of the quotations have to do with preserving liberty in the face of coercive government and life-sapping bureaucracy. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5656 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5656 Sun, 10 Apr 2011 17:24:34 EDT I just wanted to make a quick comment to say I’m glad I found your blog. Thanks http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5646 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5646 Fri, 08 Apr 2011 18:20:54 EDT Leo Wong and D. D. Todd, Re Trilling's self-identification as a man of the left, the right, what have you: You're right that to the end of his life he remained somewhere left of center. What makes his work compelling (and made it all the more compelling back when there were virtually no venues for the articulation of conservative ideas) was his willingness to be seen in public with conservative ideas or, as he would have it, conservatives "sentiments" or "impulses." He was defying the intellectual snobbery of his time and place. What we now call neoconservatism had barely been born and was being nurtured by his former student Norman Podhoretz, among others, when Trilling died in 1975. Trilling never signed up with the neoconservatives but did, in Gertrude Himmelfarb's eloquent assessment of his influence (Weekly Standard, Feb 14-21, 2005), "provide a mode of thought, a moral and cultural sensibility, that was inherently subversive of liberalism and thus an invitation to neoconservatism." http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5645 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5645 Fri, 08 Apr 2011 18:16:13 EDT Great piece. Great theme, i.e. what Joseph Conrad called "the sinister impulses that lurk in...noble intentions." http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5641 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5641 Fri, 08 Apr 2011 07:04:26 EDT Il est onéreux de trouver des gens instruits sur ce sujet, mais vous parlez comme vous vous rendez compte ce que vous parlez! Merci http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5613 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5613 Tue, 05 Apr 2011 01:11:06 EDT C'était à peu près autant que il ya beaucoup de qui n'attend pour la droite. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5612 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5612 Tue, 05 Apr 2011 00:45:44 EDT Thanks for summing it up so well. I think I’ll be returning here often. Best Regards. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5591 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5591 Sun, 03 Apr 2011 21:11:14 EDT Je veux juste dire que c'est un super blog vous êtes arrivé ici! J'ai fait le tour de pas mal de temps, mais a finalement décidé de montrer mon appréciation de votre travail! Thumbs up, et continuer! http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5578 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5578 Sun, 03 Apr 2011 04:24:41 EDT Hey, j'ai essayé de vous envoyer se rapportant à ce poste, mais ne sont pas en mesure de vous joindre. S'il vous plaît e-mail-moi faire un moment. Merci. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5576 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5576 Sun, 03 Apr 2011 03:03:16 EDT Need to keep testing my blog. Not working as I want it to yet. Thx for the theme. Maybe this will get mine to look better. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5569 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5569 Sat, 02 Apr 2011 14:24:48 EDT Trilling had the moral defect of his generation and of his heroes: he did not understand the necessity of religion. Read some Cardinal Newman, and the point is clear. Newman saw clearly that efforts at substituting philanthropy for religion were bound to fail, because they are too simple, too easy. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5503 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5503 Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:51:07 EDT Alas (83)Parrington was my first taste of lit crit in 1949! I knew Trilling flinched at the rejection of his novel (I'm finally moved to read it!), but I never knew how deeply it paralyzed him.The distance between Queens and Upper Manhattan was not nearly as distant as Columbia sociologist Herb Gans (b.1927) who spanned his birth in Cologne and fled to America in 1941--to became a sociologist much more humanistic than lit crit Trilling was sociological, and who had to scrounge for mentors in late Victorian England. Gans metabolized Blake,Whitman and Melville more than this faux elegant Whiner.There are worse things than being a flop as a novelist, e.g. poisoning the term "Liberal" because his more perceptive contemporaries rejected his second rate fiction. Patrick D.Hazard, Weimar,Germany. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5410 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5410 Sun, 20 Mar 2011 00:57:16 EDT By his own statement, Trilling remained a liberal, and in Barzun's words, "developed his own Third Position, a position on the Left as a critic of the Left. Out of it came all the premises and conclusions in politics, art, morals, and psychology that made him from the outset unclassifiable." As for a neo-conservative's opinion, he was one of Norman Podhoretz's "Ex-Friends." But of course, "it's much more complicated, it's very complicated." http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5397 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5397 Sat, 19 Mar 2011 06:06:39 EDT Most of this is rubbish. I have for over 60 years been a great admirer of Trilling and have most of his writings in my library. I am also an ardent social democrat. Trilling was an implacable enemy of the Leninist/Stalinist ideological tendency, and rightly so. No social democrat whom I know (and I know many around the world) is even remotely similar to the would-be "engineers of the human soul" Trilling rightly rejects. Trilling himself had broadly social democratic views and certainly supported trade unionism, government funded old age pensions, a public medical system and so on and on. He was a man of the democratic, anti-communist left, and was always happy to avow it. The "liberals" he attacks were the fellow traveling, "no enemies on the left" crowd. This effort to recruit him into the neo-con camp is absurd, although it is entirely understandable why a conservative would seek to conceal behind a veneer of civilization the brutal, naked, ugliness of present day conservative ideology. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5384 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5384 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 19:01:11 EDT Outstanding analysis by Beran of Trilling, whom I disliked before because of his iconic status, but now admire as a proto-neocon, if I could be so bold. I have read Balzac & am now reading L'education sentimentale en francais and will have to now read The Liberal Imagination to get a depth of field that a friend of Whittaker Chambers must have. Also, gotta read Casamassima & get back into that Jamesian complexity. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5359 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5359 Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:13:23 EDT Great article! It explains a lot for me about what I've seen in society. What struck me about the description of Harold Outram is how much he sounded like what I've read about Plato. If I remember correctly, he wanted to ban art in ancient Greece, thinking it unhealthy for his conception of society, in his "Republic." It's also my understanding that he was of a similar mind as progressives, as characterized by Thomas Sowell's "unconstrained vision," in "A Conflict of Visions." http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5355 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5355 Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:46:37 EDT ...and the conservative insitution where he taught nearly pevented his getting tencure because he as a marxist, a freudian and a Jew... http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5354 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5354 Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:37:44 EDT Great novels don't do much good when people stop reading them. Not Trilling's fault. But yours is a very good article. http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5352 http://www.city-journal.org/comments/index.php?story=6797#5352 Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:48:20 EDT